How can I betray Maven Black-Briar?
Maven Black-Briar is, to me, easily the most despicable person in all of Skyrim (and I say that as an acolyte of the Dark Brotherhood). Unfortunately, I also have obsessive-compulsive questing disorder so I cannot just leave the quest “Dampened Spirits” lying around.
Is there a way to turn this quest around and betray Maven, bringing her to justice?
(I should have never started the Thieves Guild quest line but I desperately wanted to find out about the “Unusual Gems.”)
Best Answer
As per the comments, Maven Black-Briar is an "essential" character, meaning there is no way (outside of console commands) to kill her off.
She plays a part in several other quest-lines, namely the Thieves-Guild and the Dark Brotherhood, aligning herself with the "darker" side of Skyrim.
The only quest that causes any harm to her persona is to go see a man about a horse.
Additionally, the Black-Briar Lodge also contains some hefty loot, and an Unusual Gem, so I'm sure you can have some fun beating up her henchmen and stealing her stuff. But even then, when you talk to her after this, there is no difference in her interactions so she either
doesn't give two hoots, 'cause she's rich and powerful and has her head stuck up her own butt
or (more likely)
The dev's didn't actually allow any differences to be made to her AI, so anything that you can do is entirely for the player's benefit only, with no outside effect on the rest of the game.
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Can Maven Black-Briar be exiled?
She will appoint Hemming as her steward and Maul as her housecarl. If the Dragonborn sided with the Stormcloaks, and gave Riften to the Empire in "Season Unending," then retakes it for the Stormcloaks later, Maven, Hemming and Maul will not be exiled; they will simply resume their daily routine.Can you betray the Thieves Guild?
Although there's a way to bring down the Dark Brotherhood, there is no similar quest or quest line to bring down the Thieves Guild. On the other hand, there's no disadvantages for joining and completing the Thieves Guild quest line - only benefits, achievements, and advantages!What happens if you tell Maven Black-Briar about frost?
If you persuade Sibbi further you can also obtain the key to the strongbox in the lodge. You have the option then to inform Maven Black-Briar of the plot. She will direct you to steal Frost and you can continue the same as if you didn't talk to her.Can maven make you Thane?
If Maven becomes the Jarl of Riften, the Last Dragonborn loses the ability to become Thane as she says that they are trying to steal her throne, unless the Dragonborn has high level of alliance with her.Skyrim - Will Maven Black Briar Send The Dark Brotherhood After You?
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Answer 2
Try doing the the second main quest first which is the dragonborn quest. When you call everyone to the meeting at the grey beards HQ, you get the chance to make Maven Black-Briar into the Jarl of Riften which in theory should make her vulnerable to exploitation.
When you go with the first main quest which is to kill Ulfric Stormcloak and do the quest where you get evidence that Laila Law is corrupt, instead of removing her in theory you should be able to get rid of Maven Black-Briar for good (if the emperor has any sense) because she is worse than Laila Law. Other than that I don't think you can.
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