How to revoke a barony title in one's demesne without tyranny?
AFAIK there are at least 4 ways to revoke a title without incurring tyranny.
1) send a chancellor to fabricate claims - by far the most convenient way. The problem is you can't send him anywhere within your demesne.
2) grant independence then use de jure claim to declare war. You can't do this if the vassal is within de jure territory and of your religion.
3) spur the vassal to rebel. To do this you need to raise his levies (and wait till his opinion of you is ruined). It's a little tricky, because you can't actually raise them per holding, only per county and you don't want the other vassals (if there are any) to rebel. What you do is you raise the county levies, then disband all but the ones owned by the one you want to infuriate. Still, this solution, while viable, requires lots of time.
4) pray for him to create a plot, then pray to uncover it, then pray to fail to imprison him and thus having him rebel. Well, it seems to me there's no guarantee this ever happens throughout the whole gameplay.
Is there some other way? Did I miss something?
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The good people over at Paradox Forums provided me with these answers:
Murder. Straight and simple. Just plot to kill the baron, then his/her heirs. Eventually you'll inherit the title. If the succession line's too long for your liking, you'd probably want to listen to Studoku's advice above of first marrying into it.
Intrigue focus. According to a Paradox Forums poster named Peter Kirby:
"Intrigue focus (Way of Life DLC), will open up more opportunities to move to imprison him and thus having him rebel. It also gives more opportunities to kill him, and you seem to get away with it without 'known murderer' penalties more often (simply getting large 'attempted murder' penalties from the target)"
Excommunication. Once again let me quote a PF poster:
Excommunicate makes rest of realm not care that you revoked him
You can read the whole thread here: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/how-to-revoke-a-barony-title-in-ones-demesne-without-tyranny.871375/
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How do you revoke titles in ck3?
If the title belongs to a vassal, the claim allows the liege to revoke the claimed title without incurring tyranny. Otherwise, a claim provide a casus belli to gain the claimed title through war....ClaimEdit.Title rankPiety costEmpire20003 more rowsHow do you revoke a vassal title in ck3?
Revoking Titles of vassals is a crucial part of realm management, as it allows redistribution of power. To revoke Titles: Feudal or Clan Rulers require Level 2 Crown Authority (and thus the Tribal Era Innovation Planned Assemblies). Tribal Rulers require Level 3 Tribal Authority.CK2 102: How to revoke titles and take over countries
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