Why do I have different National ideas for my Roman Empire?

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According to the EU4 wiki I should expect the following National ideas:

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But when I loaded up the game I found the following:

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I understand that I should have the seven going from "Pax Romana" till "Imperium Sine Fine", but apparently I got the ideas of Bali.

Also, wiki states that:

If the average technological advances in the entire realm passes a certain point, the Empire's technology group will be Western instead of Eastern after transfer to EU4.

and I was quite surprised to find out that I was in the Muslim group:

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Has the above ever happened to anyone else? What are the conditions that made this happen?

The following disclaimers apply:

  • it was not an ironman game
  • it was actually quite an heavy-console game played for fun and giggles (the roman empire controls all the available world in CK2 by year 1000, everyone is orthodox and italian, all provinces have maxed tech)
  • I converted before the endgame date
  • I converted before most of the territories got included as de-jure





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Can any nation form Roman Empire EU4?

Originally Answered: How do I form the Roman Empire in EU4, and with what nation? Any christian nation can reform the Roman Empire, so in theory, any nation you like. Practically speaking, to make it easier on you there's a few tips.

Can Italy form the Roman Empire EU4?

Italy is one of the formable countries that can be formed by any country with a Latin culture group. Unlike other Catholic countries, Italy does not get a penalty for owning the province of Roma or being the overlord of the Papal States.

What provinces do you need to form the Roman Empire EU4?

General. Specifically, you need the entire Mashriq region (around Baghdad) in order to form the Roman Empire. This is terra incognita to Byzantium in 1444.



The Roman Empire would not have fallen if these decisions were made differently.




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